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== Stereo on TFT monitors ==
== Stereo on TFT monitors ==
Question: is someone using Nvidia 3D vision + a compatible 1920x1080 23.5" Desktop Display e.g. ACER GD245HQ 120 Hz LCD display OR Alienware OptX AW2310 120 Hz LCD display? Is it running nicely with Linux + Nvidia's Linux driver? How is the stereo quality compared to Zalman's 3D-LCDs or the old CrystalEyes shutter glasses + CRT monitor?
=== Nvidia 3D Vision ===
 
# 3D Vision Pro is ''not'' what you want, this seems to be for projectors
Answers:
# Quality is much better than Zalman and somewhat better than CRTs
#  I am using the combination you are asking for with alienware monitor. The driver I am using is 195.30 beta. It works very well. Quality is much much better than Zalman and somewhat better than CRTs.
# Compatible monitors: 23.5" Desktop Display e.g. ACER GD245HQ 120 Hz LCD display, Alienware OptX AW2310 120 Hz, Samsung SyncMaster 2233
# I have Nvidia 3D vision running on the Samsung SyncMaster 2233.  One note of caution, for the Quadra FX3800 if you are using dual monitors I haven't found a way to get TwinView to work with the Nvidia 195.30 beta linux driver.  You can configure for 2 X-screens to drive the two screens as a work around.  This is most likely a 3800 problem since the 3800 has 1 DVI and 2 HDMI outputs instead of 2 DVI outputs.  If you are looking for a new graphics card as well and like dual monitors I would stay away from the Quadro FX1800 and FX3800. The Nvidia 3D vision quality is better than Zalman but the Zalman glasses are much lighter if you do a lot of stereo. Follow up question:  Is your Nvidia 3D vision emitter connected via the 3-pin DIN or USB?  The Nvidia 3D vision emitter I have only connects via USB and I could not get this working under linux.
# The Nvidia 3D vision emitter that connects via USB only works on Windows, not Linux.
# To me, the currently (2013) best NVIDIA 3D Vision solution on Linux is to buy one of the monitors with built-in emitter from http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html (we have the BenQ XL2420TX), and a cheap Quadro, e.g. the FX380. The latter has a Dual-Link DVI and a HDMI/Displayport outlet, so can drive the stereo monitor, and an additional monitor. This solution avoids the USB/3-pin hassle altogether. Make sure to use 'Option "Stereo" "10" ' and 'Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "Off" EndSection"' in xorg.conf! We found that using a GeForce card instead of Quadro ''does not work'' on Linux.
# The currently (2013+) best NVIDIA 3D Vision solution on Linux is to buy one of the monitors with built-in emitter from http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html (we have the BenQ XL2420TX), and a cheap Quadro, e.g. (2013) the FX380 or (2015) K420. The latter has a Dual-Link DVI and a HDMI/Displayport outlet, so can drive the stereo monitor, and an additional monitor. This solution avoids the USB/3-pin hassle altogether. See below for xorg.conf! We found that using a GeForce card instead of Quadro ''does not work'' on Linux.
# www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html names Acer GN245HQ, Acer HN274H (DVI, 27", 390€-420€), ASUS VG278H (Asus VG278HR was confirmed on CCP4BB; DVI, 27", 500€), BenQ XL2420TX (see above, DVI and DisplayPort, 24", 500€), and ViewSonic V3D245 as monitors with built-in emitter. The three with prices can be bought in Germany.
# www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-displays.html names Acer GN245HQ, Acer HN274H (DVI, 27", 390€-420€), ASUS VG278H (Asus VG278HR was confirmed on CCP4BB; DVI, 27", 500€), BenQ XL2420TX (see above, DVI and DisplayPort, 24", 500€), and ViewSonic V3D245 as monitors with built-in emitter. The three with prices can be bought in Germany.
# cheap Quadro cards with dual-link DVI-D or DisplayPort are: Quadro 310 (75€), 410 (80€) , 400 (116€), 500 (154€) - there are others. Quadro 400 and 600 have been reported to work, on CCP4BB. Make sure the card can do dual-link DVI if your monitor has only DVI input. Any card (including the "Windows only" ones!) listed at http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-pro-requirements.html#Quadro should work if a) it can do dual-link DVI if the monitor has only DVI input, and b) if the monitor has built-in emitter. DisplayPort is fine with the BenQ XL2420TX.
# cheap Quadro cards with dual-link DVI-D or DisplayPort are: Quadro 310 (75€), 410 (80€) , 400 (116€), 500 (154€) - there are others. Quadro 400 and 600 have been reported to work, on CCP4BB. Make sure the card can do dual-link DVI if your monitor has only DVI input. Any card (including the "Windows only" ones!) listed at http://www.nvidia.com/object/3d-vision-pro-requirements.html#Quadro should work if a) it can do dual-link DVI if the monitor has only DVI input, and b) if the monitor has built-in emitter. DisplayPort is fine with the BenQ XL2420TX.
== TFT monitors: update January 2015 ==
Using NVidia's 346.35 driver on RHEL/CentOS/SL 7, I changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf to have
    Section "Device"
      Driver      "nvidia"
      Option      "Stereo" "10"
    EndSection
but there is no stereo (coot only shows a slightly rotated view), nor is there any hint in /var/log/Xorg.0.log that stereo is disabled. In fact, it is disabled, due to the Composite Extension (see http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/346.35/README/xcompositeextension.html). If this is disabled by
    Section "Extensions"
      Option    "Composite" "Disable"
    EndSection
then the login screen (gdm) crashes. This is documented at https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/556113/3d-vision-and-composite-option/ . The only way out is to install a different display manager, like documented at e.g. http://jensd.be/?p=125 . This works well - I'm now using lightdm and the MATE desktop, an NVidia Quadro K420 and a BenQ XL2420TX. 
==Ono==
You also need to set the environment variable STEREO for the stereo to work properly in ono:
setenv STEREO on (tcsh)
STEREO = on; export STEREO (bash)
[http://dbb.urmc.rochester.edu/labs/wedekind/Wedekind-Lab/X-ray%20Lab/Methods/Nvidia-ONO.html]
==Mac OS X==
The following command needs to be run for Macs to be able to support stereo in X11 programs, such as Coot [http://xanana.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Installing_Coot_on_OS_X] :
    defaults write com.apple.x11 enable_stereo -bool true


== Stereo on conventional CRT monitors ==
== Stereo on conventional CRT monitors ==
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Note that one can think this is rather silly to define two card, two monitors, two cards, and two screens.
Note that one can think this is rather silly to define two card, two monitors, two cards, and two screens.
However, that the only way I know that one monitor can be stereo-enabled and the other one not.
However, that the only way I know that one monitor can be stereo-enabled and the other one not.
==Ono==
You also need to set the environment variable STEREO for the stereo to work properly in ono:
setenv STEREO on (tcsh)
STEREO = on; export STEREO (bash)
[http://dbb.urmc.rochester.edu/labs/wedekind/Wedekind-Lab/X-ray%20Lab/Methods/Nvidia-ONO.html]
==Mac OS X==
The following command needs to be run for Macs to be able to support stereo in X11 programs, such as Coot [http://xanana.ucsc.edu/~wgscott/xtal/wiki/index.php/Installing_Coot_on_OS_X] :
    defaults write com.apple.x11 enable_stereo -bool true
== TFT monitors: update January 2015 ==
Using NVidia's 346.35 driver on RHEL/CentOS/SL 7, I changed /etc/X11/xorg.conf to have
    Section "Device"
      Driver      "nvidia"
      Option      "Stereo" "10"
    EndSection
but there is no stereo (coot only shows a slightly rotated view), nor is there any hint in /var/log/Xorg.0.log that stereo is disabled. In fact, it is disabled, due to the Composite Extension (see http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/346.35/README/xcompositeextension.html). If this is disabled by
    Section "Extensions"
      Option    "Composite" "Disable"
    EndSection
then the login screen (gdm) crashes. This is documented at https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/556113/3d-vision-and-composite-option/ . The only way out is to install a different display manager, like documented at e.g. http://jensd.be/?p=125 . This works well - I'm now using lightdm and the MATE desktop.


==See also==
==See also==
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